tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post3478178011689274665..comments2024-03-01T04:59:47.946+00:00Comments on The Bible illustration blog: Baby in a BasketBible artisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11875939553176288499noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-53487631085646197652009-02-10T13:06:00.000+00:002009-02-10T13:06:00.000+00:00Hi DaveThanks for that. Yes, I did notice that the...Hi Dave<BR/>Thanks for that. Yes, I did notice that the bulrushes were not mentioned. I came to the same decision as you that any vegetation native to the Nile would be acceptable.Bible artisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11875939553176288499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-14630591088403631072009-02-10T06:04:00.000+00:002009-02-10T06:04:00.000+00:00It seems to be true that bulrush more properly ref...It seems to be true that bulrush more properly refers to rushes in the sedge family, rather than to reedmace, or what I would call cattails--but I don't know of any Bible translation that says Moses was found among bulrushes. <BR/><BR/>KJV, for instance: <BR/><I>...she took for him an ark of bulrushes, and daubed it with slime and with pitch, and put the child therein; and she laid it in the flags by the river's brink... <BR/>And the daughter of Pharaoh... saw the ark among the flags... </I><BR/><BR/>So he was found among flags, in a basket made of bulrushes. Flag in modern English would mean iris, but that's probably not right. The Hebrew word that's translated as "bulrushes" there is gome', which seems to mean papyrus, which is what you drew. <BR/><BR/>But the word given as "flags" is suph, which modern translators usually render as "reeds". The same word is used in Jonah 2:5 apparently to refer to seaweed, so it may mean something more general like "weeds" or "water plants." <BR/><BR/>For illustrations, I think any vegetation native to the Nile would be reasonable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-33265603904843631212009-02-08T14:40:00.000+00:002009-02-08T14:40:00.000+00:00According to Alec Garrard's book 'The Splendor of ...According to Alec Garrard's book 'The Splendor of the Temple' The booths or stalls of Annas, where items could be purchased for sacrificial offerings such as cattle, sheep, doves, flour, oil and wine, were located in the Outer Courtyard of the Temple, outside of the original Temple area so as not to infringe the Law of Moses.<BR/><BR/>The northern Outer Courtyard was the largest of the three. There was no Outer Courtyard on the Eastern side of the Temple.Bible artisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11875939553176288499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-10737545870220417142009-02-07T03:39:00.000+00:002009-02-07T03:39:00.000+00:00Graham, Possibly you have answered this question s...Graham, Possibly you have answered this question somewhere, but the cleansing of the temple...where would that have taken place? The temple 'complex' was quite large, so when I tell my little people about the 'cleansing' will my picture of the temple (yes, I did finally paint my picture of the temple, except it ended up on a poster board instead of a large sheet)be sufficient? Deborawdeborawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16379928023984310298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-85645494157601545472009-02-05T01:26:00.000+00:002009-02-05T01:26:00.000+00:00Graham, No, you have answered the question--. And...Graham, No, you have answered the question--. And I would think in the same way for much the same reasoning. A number of years ago while studying to go as foreign missionaries our teacher told us that for no reason should the wives go into the 'bush' (for teaching, etc.) it was not only unwise, but unsafe. And I would think that would have been an added incentive for the modesty element for the Israelites even in those times, but maybe not. Also, thank you for taking the time to answer. Smile--Deborawdeborawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16379928023984310298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-16745404071581299762009-02-03T23:31:00.000+00:002009-02-03T23:31:00.000+00:00Hi DeborawI have seen a number of Bible illustrati...Hi Deboraw<BR/>I have seen a number of Bible illustrations where the artist has used clothing that only covers one shoulder. Harold Copping is one example. I have on occasion drawn it this way myself. I believe that this was one of a number of ways that clothing was worn in Bible times.<BR/>I personally wouldn't have a problem with this in terms of modesty.<BR/><BR/>When it comes to the children of Israel wandering in the wilderness I always imagined them to be fairly well covered for two reasons. Firstly they were traveling with all their possessions, and secondly, to protect them from the elements, in the same way as the Beduin tribesmen do.<BR/>I'm not sure that I have answered your question fully, you may have something else in mind.Bible artisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11875939553176288499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-74868513077842809082009-02-02T14:31:00.000+00:002009-02-02T14:31:00.000+00:00Graham, Another question I have had, in some of th...Graham, Another question I have had, in some of the illustrations of the children of Israel, the illustrator has the men and women wearing clothing that only covers one shoulder. I'm thinking of one scene of Hannah and Elkanah taking Samuel to the priest. They are both wearing one shoulder clothing. I had read the description of the Egyptian dress also, and wondered if my perceptions are incorrect. As in one would want to be more careful wandering in the wilderness in regards to modesty in all areas. What is your take, which way is more accurate? I don't care for the 'off the shoulder' style myself, but it isn't as in your face immodest as gauze covered Egyptians. Deborawdeborawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16379928023984310298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-45817031639647346292009-02-02T10:10:00.000+00:002009-02-02T10:10:00.000+00:00Many thanks Nahum, these comments are extremely he...Many thanks Nahum, these comments are extremely helpful! Yes I agree, the clothing on the handmaidens is very similar to those on Pharoah's daughter.<BR/>This did go through my mind when I was illustrating it. I had so much reference for Egyptian clothing that I was trying to cram it all into one picture!<BR/>Very good point!<BR/><BR/>I will Google the Dura-Europas Synagogue to see if I can find an image of panel 18. Fascinating stuff. Many thanks again!Bible artisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11875939553176288499noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-66480000137949730742009-02-02T09:24:00.000+00:002009-02-02T09:24:00.000+00:00I very much appreciate your excellent rendition of...I very much appreciate your excellent rendition of baby Moses in the bulrushes found by Pharoah's daughter and her handmaidens. The extent of research rendering accuracy and verisimilitude by analyzing the pyramid paintings, and the precise type of bulrush species is very impressive. The issue that the artist struggles with regarding accuracy versuses modesty is quite challenging. Probably one of the earliest (if not the earliest) depiction of this scene is found on the west wall panel 18 of the third century Dura-Europas Synagogue in Syria. In this mural, Pharoah's daughter is depicted in the nile with very little clothing. The baby basket is illustrated as a little house as opposed to a basket. This is most likely based on the annoymous artist's literal translation of the Hebrew words for the basket; "Tavat Gomeh" or "ark of bulrushes", hence the rendition in that mural of the basket as a little miniature Noah's ark. Also in your painting, Graham, the clothing of Pharoah's daughter and handmaidens are quite similar. One can identify the princess because she is the one who is seen in frontal view holding the crying baby. I wonder if the princess may have worn clothing distinctly different and more elaborate and royal compared to her handmaidens thereby denoting her elevated status. Thanks for a very beautiful and poignant rendition of this biblical story".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35459855.post-52867786908222606692009-02-02T08:26:00.000+00:002009-02-02T08:26:00.000+00:00Very nice indeed! Very useful.Very nice indeed! Very useful.The Bearded Belgianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05388071515950432851noreply@blogger.com